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PostedSun, 28 May 2023 06:01:28 GMTbyAshanth Muthutantri

Hello,I have recently moved to the UK, and i have been trying to gather the treatment on a mutual fund where dividends paid are reinvested back as units in the fund. The fund would in this case would declare dividends in Singapore dollars which is then converted to the relevant number of units based on dividend date.Eg: Units held 1,000Dividend per each unit: 0.05 SGD/UnitDividend: SGD 50Unit Price at Dividend Date: SGD 20No of Units added to existing holding: 2.5Seeking guidance on how this income should be considered for UK tax purposes. Thank you!

PostedThu, 01 Jun 2023 05:33:13 GMTbyHMRC Admin 25

HiAshanth Muthutantri,
If the company pays out cash dividends, you will owe taxes on those payments even if you decide to reinvest the cash received.
If however, the company reinvests your dividends to purchase additional shares, you will not owe taxes until you sell those shares.
Thank you.

PostedThu, 01 Jun 2023 05:45:26 GMTbyAshanth Muthutantri

Thank you! This is very helpful.Just one more addition, this is an investment in a mutual fund. No cash is paid out and the dividend is directly reinvested as units of the fund.Just wanted to be sure that this would not change the position of when taxes would be due.Thank you!

PostedThu, 01 Jun 2023 06:13:22 GMTbyAshanth Muthutantri

Very useful!

HiAshanth Muthutantri,
To confirm, it will not.
Thank you

PostedThu, 01 Jun 2023 14:39:34 GMTbyAshanth Muthutantri

Thanks much appreciated!

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PostedThu, 07 Dec 2023 15:34:46 GMTby

Hi HMRC Admin, I have a similar situation with an Employer's share scheme in Germany which paid out a dividends in cash into my UK bank account and a second dividend was automatically reinvested in the Employer's share scheme in Germany. Is this the same situation as above? where you said ; "If the company pays out cash dividends, you will owe taxes on those payments even if you decide to reinvest the cash received.If however, the company reinvests your dividends to purchase additional shares, you will not owe taxes until you sell those shares"Thank you

PostedTue, 12 Dec 2023 10:18:59 GMTbyHMRC Admin 10

Hi
Yes, the same guidance would apply.

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PostedTue, 12 Dec 2023 12:08:01 GMTby

Hi, that’s really helpful thank you.

PostedWed, 03 Jan 2024 14:28:13 GMTbyKevin

Hi With respect to the above posts, can you please confirm if this guidance also applies to UK Company share scheme dividends applied within UK?Also, if tax has been paid on previous years dividends that have been automatically reinvested, can a rebate be claimed?Thanks

PostedSat, 06 Jan 2024 17:30:51 GMTbyjohngold1 johngold1

Hi HMRC adminI have Accumulation investment funds and I have received dividends of approx £3000, but the dividends not received in cash, they are reinvested into the funds. Is this the same situation as above where you said ;"If the company pays out cash dividends, you will owe taxes on those payments even if you decide to reinvest the cash received.If however, the company reinvests your dividends to purchase additional shares, you will not owe taxes until you sell those shares" ?i.e. do I need to report these dividends in my Self Assessment?Thank you.

PostedWed, 10 Jan 2024 14:42:19 GMTbyHMRC Admin 5

HiKevin

Yes it does. For previous years you would need to submit a claim in writing and say that you are claiming overpayment relief. The earlier year that can be reviewed is the 19/20 tax year.

Thank you

PostedThu, 11 Jan 2024 16:19:39 GMTbyHMRC Admin 5

Hijohngold1 johngold1

If the company reinvested the funds then no you don't declare them.

Thank you

PostedFri, 12 Jan 2024 12:33:33 GMTbyKevin

Many thanks for the response and clarification.

PostedTue, 23 Jan 2024 13:37:07 GMTbyMikeR14

Can I ask if this applies only to mutual funds, or is it shares as well? e.g. do I need to declare anything from the United Utilities DRIP dividend reinvestment scheme?

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PostedTue, 23 Jan 2024 14:58:07 GMTby

Hello Admin:Could you be a bit more specific on the definition of "company" here in this earlier quote:"If the company pays out cash dividends, you will owe taxes on those payments even if you decide to reinvest the cash received.If however, the company reinvests your dividends to purchase additional shares, you will not owe taxes until you sell those shares. "Here's a specific example: if I am holding a mutual fund (or individual stock or ETF) in a brokerage account, and I set that account to automatically re-invest the dividends back into the fund, would that be covered the same as the example you give above?In this case, I am not receiving and re-investing the dividends myself. A third party is doing it on my behalf and I am given the additional shares rather than the cash dividend.

PostedFri, 26 Jan 2024 10:47:41 GMTbyjohngold1 johngold1

Hi everyone. The HMRC admins on here may be giving incorrect advice. I understand that from HMRC that generally you DO have to declare dividends in your self assessment even if they are not received in cash, i.e additional shares or investments back into a fund. I understand that these dividends may be taxable,especially if they are above £2000 Could the HMRC admins on this forum please double-check and respond here please? Thanks.

PostedFri, 26 Jan 2024 10:52:35 GMTbyHMRC Admin 25

HiMikeR14,
If the company automatically reinvests then no

PostedFri, 26 Jan 2024 11:31:52 GMTbyHMRC Admin 25

Hid3a350,
As you have stated that you have set the account to reinvest then these dividends are not taxable.
Thank you.

PostedTue, 30 Jan 2024 16:35:10 GMTbyHMRC Admin 8

Hi,
If the company automatically reinvests the dividends to buy more shares, no. if you choose to reinvest them, yes.
Thankyou.

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FAQs

Are dividends reinvested in mutual funds? ›

If you buy a fund right before the record date, part of your investment will be returned to you when distributions are paid. This is known as “buying a dividend.” Depending on how your account is set up, you'll either receive a check for the payout or the distributions will be reinvested.

Do I report dividends that are reinvested? ›

If the reinvested dividends buy shares at a price equal to their fair market value (FMV), you must report the dividends as income along with any other ordinary dividends.

What is a downside of dividends and capital gains being reinvested in a mutual fund? ›

Even when distributions are reinvested, shareholders pay taxes on the amounts they receive (unless their assets are held in a tax-advantaged account, such as a traditional IRA or a Roth IRA).

How do I avoid paying taxes on reinvested dividends? ›

Reinvested dividends may be treated in different ways, however. Qualified dividends get taxed as capital gains, while non-qualified dividends get taxed as ordinary income. You can avoid paying taxes on reinvested dividends in the year you earn them by holding dividend stocks in a tax-deferred retirement plan.

What happens to dividends from mutual funds? ›

Mutual funds collect these dividends as income and then distribute them to shareholders pro rata. All funds must legally distribute their accumulated dividends at least once a year. Those focused on producing continuous income for investors may pay dividends quarterly or even monthly.

Do my dividends automatically get reinvested? ›

Dividend reinvestment is a simple process. When a company pays dividend income, the broker or company uses the cash to buy more shares of the underlying investment, which is completely automated if an investor signs up for automatic dividend reinvestment or a DRIP program.

Why shouldn't you reinvest dividends? ›

Not reinvesting dividends (and using them to invest in something else instead) can help improve a portfolio's diversification over time. Even if you don't have an overly large position in a stock, you may not want to purchase more of it if it's already trading at a significant premium.

Is it better to reinvest dividends or capital gains? ›

Reinvesting dividends has the advantage of compounding distributions over time, which can lead to exponential growth in your investment portfolio. The same can be said about growth funds, where capital appreciation can also lead to exponential growth.

Can you live off dividends and capital gains? ›

Depending on how much money you have in those stocks or funds, their growth over time, and how much you reinvest your dividends, you could be generating enough money to live off of each year, without having any other retirement plan.

How to pay no tax on dividends? ›

You may be able to avoid all income taxes on dividends if your income is low enough to qualify for zero capital gains if you invest in a Roth retirement account or buy dividend stocks in a tax-advantaged education account.

Are reinvested dividends double taxed? ›

Dividends are taxable regardless of whether you take them in cash or reinvest them in the mutual fund that pays them out. You incur the tax liability in the year in which the dividends are reinvested.

At what age do you not pay capital gains? ›

Capital Gains Tax for People Over 65. For individuals over 65, capital gains tax applies at 0% for long-term gains on assets held over a year and 15% for short-term gains under a year. Despite age, the IRS determines tax based on asset sale profits, with no special breaks for those 65 and older.

Can you live off mutual fund dividends? ›

Depending on how much money you have in those stocks or funds, their growth over time, and how much you reinvest your dividends, you could be generating enough money to live off of each year, without having any other retirement plan.

How do I know if my dividends are reinvested? ›

There will also be a transaction on your cash statement for the cash used for reinvestment and your contract note will be stored in your documents.

Are dividends paid out or reinvested? ›

A dividend is a reward (usually cash) that a company or fund gives to its shareholders on a per-share basis. You can pocket the cash or reinvest the dividends to buy more shares of the company or fund.

Is it better to sell mutual funds before or after dividends? ›

Selling a fund prior to the distribution will generally result in more capital gain or less loss than if you sell the shares after the distribution, if you only take into account market price changes reflecting the distribution. Selling shares after the distribution usually will yield less gain or more loss.

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